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Heated Air Comes From Vents Even When Saab A/C Is On

Posted 6/15/2000
By Rich Cregar

Vehicle
1980 through 1989 Saab 900 2.0L

Symptom/Problem
Good heat comes from the heater, but when the A/C is on, cold air comes from some vents and heated air from others. The problem is hot water entering the heater core.

Test/Fix
Manually pinch off the heater hoses located in the engine compartment. If the dash vents all deliver cooled air, the water valve is not shutting off the water to the heater core. Remove the driver's defrost vent and hose and check the control rod between the temperature control dial and the water valve. If the control rod is in place and moves freely with the temp control dial, replace the water valve.

Background
The sun has risen higher in the sky from its winter sojourn to the south and is again warming the hemisphere. And as it does, drivers of Saab 900s start reaching for their heat control knob, turning it off. As the temperatures grow even warmer, they press the A/C button, expecting ice cold air to flow from the dash vents. More often than not, no cold air appears so they bring the car to you to find out why.

The customer's complaint is that unheated fresh air, or chilled A/C air, comes from the center vent but the air coming from the side vents remains warm, even when the air conditioning is operating at maximum.

Here's what's happening: In the ventilation system of the Saab 900, all air flowing into the passenger compartment actually enters at the hood louvers and flows through the evaporator coil. Once past the coil, some of the air flow is diverted to the center dash vent, while the rest of the air is passed through the heater core and then distributed to the defrost outlets, floor outlets, and the left and right dash vents. If engine coolant is able to flow through the heater core, all air coming through the system will be heated except the air at the center vents.

Keep in mind that these cars are designed and built in northern Europe where the summer climate is more moderate and air conditioning is rarely used. In winter, when heat is a necessity, the center vent is used to provide a cool flow of air to the face, which helps prevent driver fatigue.

What you will usually discover is that the heater control valve is defective and no longer blocks flow through the core. Unlike most conventional heater valves, the Saab valve allows the coolant to continue to circulate from the head to the water pump by letting coolant flow through a bypass channel that is internal to the valve itself.

Before condemning the valve as defective, remove the speaker grille (with defrost tube) on the driver's side and look through the windshield into the opening with a flashlight. Verify that the mechanical linkage from the knob to the valve is intact. The linkage rod is a double-jointed shaft with plastic retainers at both ends. During radio or instrument cluster servicing this rod can easily become disconnected at either end. Also, the plastic retainer at the rod ends can crack and then not drive the valve to its fully closed position.

Operate the valve by hand and verify that it is not shutting off. Replacing the valve is not a difficult job technically - but it's not a job for anyone who can't stand to twist their bodies under a dashboard.

An added tip: The little rocker controls that regulate airflow at the dash vents do not have any friction “drag” to them, and as a result, keep snapping to the “closed” position as the air flow pushes the air flap shut. This is very annoying. A short piece of matchstick from a matchbook tucked discreetly between the rocker and the vent will solve this problem.

Cregar Rich Cregar is an IDENTIFIX European car specialist and team leader. He is a certified Mercedes-Benz master technician, service manager; ASE master, L1, Refrigerant, Alternate Fuels; Bosch BSC 1, 2.

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